FINAL
MEETING MINUTES
October 31 November 2, 2000
Williamsburg, VA
Attending:
Bob Leaverton, Chair
Ralph Alworth, FIRESCOPE
Tom Boatner, BLM
Tom Bourn, NE States
Paul Broyles, NPS
Harlan Henderson, USCG
Jim Karles, Southern States
Tim Murphy, Western States
Nate Shourds, BIA
Phil Street, US FWS
Beth Spencer, Executive Secretary
Guests:
Carol Gilbert, USCG NSFCC (10/31-11/2)
Kristy Plourde, USCG NSFCC (10/31-11/2)
TWT Liaison:
Liaison needed to the Training Working Team. Marc Rounsaville volunteered by his absence.
14-Day Policy:
Major considerations were:
· Safety
· Cost
· Resource Availability/Work-life Issue
· Productivity/Credibility
· State Agreements of 14 days
We evaluated the following alternatives:
-- 14 days, exclusive of travel, for all line personnel with arduous fitness level required.
-- 21 days, including travel, for all other overhead personnel and incident management teams.
The above alternatives would apply to national Planning Levels 1 4. During national Planning Level 5, incident personnel could be extended an addition 14 days, following 2 days of R&R. This would require the concurrence of the resource and the home unit and upon arrival home, resource would be allowed a minimum of 4 days, excluding travel, at their home unit before receiving another assignment.
Our recommendation to NWCG:
--Incident assignments not exceed 14 days, excluding travel. Situations where life and property are so imminently threatened or suppression objectives are close to being met may allow an exception to this policy per the joint agreement of the Incident Command and Agency Administrators (of the incident and the resources home unit).
--No assignment should exceed 21 days except as stated below.
--During National Preparedness Level 5, personnel can be given 2 days R&R after first 14 day assignment and may be extended or reassigned for up to 14 more days with the concurrence of the individual and their home unit. At the end of the second 14 day assignment, resource will be release to the home unit and should be allowed a minimum of 4 days at home unit, excluding travel, before receiving another assignment.
Most of the comments back on the IOS WT proposal to develop a Type 3 crew were negative. It was decided to revise our proposal to two types of crews and establish standards. In addition, we established additional standards for Type 2 crews to be used for Initial Attack.
We revised our proposal to reflect the standards for Type 1 crews, Type 2 crews, and Type 2 crews with Initial Attack capability.
Team
Configuration:
Follow Up: Beth will forward logistics information regarding Denver meeting.
The group is working on four levels of training: Follower (entry level), Leader of People (squad boss/crew boss/engine boss level), Leader of Leaders (IC level), and Leader of Organizations. The intent is to incorporate these modules into existing classes. Contractors may be used to help with course development.
We will discuss this further at joint meeting with TWT in February.
NFPA 1051 Update:
Follow Up: Tim will continue to keep us updated.
Investigator/LE:
10% Trainee Proposal:
The IOS WT received a proposal from the Eastern Area Coordination Center proposing that on any large wildland fire incident, 10% of the overhead positions are ordered with trainees automatically. This may be an eastern area issue, as they do not get much opportunity for trainee assignments in their area. We did not see where this proposal would necessarily benefit the east. This proposal also went to the TWT and Bob will call Logan Lee to see if they had any discussion. We will forward our letter to the GACCs and NICC, the solution may be for the east to prioritize their trainees and negotiate assignments.
Follow up: Bob will write a letter to be forwarded to the GACCs/NICC.
Fire Prevention Course Proposal
National Wildland Fire Qualification Modules
The IOS WT requested the TWT update the six National Wildland Fire Qualification curriculum modules at our joint meeting in February 2000. At the time, the National Fire and Aviation Support Group could not accept that task due to other priorities and commitments. The TWT has now written us a memo stating that Eva Brown of the BLM Training Unit has been assigned the task, which is targeted for Spring 2001. She may need assistance from the IOS WT regarding specific project objectives.
· 310-1 completion
· Initiated Crew Typing proposal (first and second draft)
· NFPA Interfacing, completed urban interface action items. Knowledges, skills and abilities completed.
· Met with parent group
· Began 410-1 review
· Approved revised ICS 209 form
· Supported national All-Risk ICS review
· Continued to work on Fire Leadership proposal
· Participated in NFPA 1051 committee
· Participated in IQS committee
· Joint meeting with TWT
· Approved IADP Position Taskbook
· Updated IOS WT Charter
· Reviewed PTBs for FOBS-RXFM compatibility
· Participated in Fire Program Management Competencies and Quals Projects
· Reviewed need for national standard for fireline EMT
· Assisted USCG in finalizing one week training curriculum for ICS planning
· Assisted USCG as technical specialist regarding update of oil field operations guide
· Assisted USCG with forms update
· Assisted USCG with developing Incident Management Teams
· Reviewed and acted upon a variety of external proposals
· Change in membership:
-BIA Representation, Nate Shourds replaced Rich Caballero
-USFS Representation, Marc Rounsaville replaced John Roberts
-USFWS Representation, Phil Street replaced Mike Phillips
-SE States Representation, Jim Karles replaced Roger Browning
-Executive Secretary, Beth Spencer replaced Claudia Standish
410-1 Review:
IOS WT agreed to target the revised handbook towards the fireline user with supplements or another handbook for additional information for the needs of managers or others. Sections of the handbook were assigned for review at the May 2000 meeting, as follows:
Chapter 1 (Initial Attack) Alworth/Street
Chapter 2 (Extended Attack) Karles/Rounsaville
Chapter 3 (Transition) Bourn/Leaverton
Chapter 4 (Large Fire Mgmt Teams) Shourds/Henderson
Chapter 5 (Firefighting Safety) Murphy/Broyles
Chapter 6 (Common Responsibilities) Boatner
Four things were identified that need to be included in new handbook:
-Calculation of Control Forces
-Incident Complexity Analysis (formerly in 310-1)
-Resource Typing Changes (Engines, Water Tenders, Crews)
-Urban Interface Operations
The following sections were discussed:
COVER: Agreed to put LCES prominently on the front or back cover.
I. Definitions
II. Characteristics
III. Example of Initial Attack Organization
IV. Duties of Incident Commander
A. Upon Dispatch
B. Enroute to Incident
1. Area
2. Fire Behavior
3. Local Weather
4. Smoke Column
C. Arriving on Scene
D. Taking Action
1. Determining Incident Action Plan
2. Brief Crew and Begin Work
3. Continue Assessment
4. Cause Information
V. Fire Suppression Tactics
VI. Assessment of Incident Program
Ralph will incorporate changes and corrections into this chapter.
EXTENDED ATTACK. Need to work on definition of extended attack. When complexity levels exceed initial attack resources, additional resources should be added.
Page 16, 4th bullet, add a range of 1 to 4 operational periods.
Page 22, add Extended Attack Complexity Analysis
TRANSITION and INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS. Combine chapters 3 and 4 with all the transition references into this chapter. Other chapters will just have a note to refer to this chapter.
Order of the new chapter:
Transition Definition
Transition Extended Attack Type 2 Type 1
Unified Command
Type 2 Organization
Type 1 Organization
Chart
Complex
Area Command
Tom Bourn will work with Harlan and Nate on this combined chapter.
COMMON RESPONSIBILITIES. Tom
Boatner will bring a draft to the next
meeting.
Conference Call Schedule:
Jan. 23, 2001 noon, MST
Feb. 13, 2001 noon, MST
March 13, 2001 noon, MST
April 10, 2001 noon, MDT
Beth will send out reminders with the call-in number prior to the scheduled conference call.
Upcoming
Meetings: